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Epic Monkey Battle · May 07, 2008, 10:14 PM // 22:14

Recently, my guild has been having a discussion of whether our axe warrior should bring rend touch, or shock. We run a pretty typical "balanced" build. (2 Wars, 1 Para, Ele, Mes, 2 monks, Flagger). I am just looking for some outside opinions on which skill and why. Thanks.

Farin · May 07, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32

Doesn't matter, you're spiking. Are enchants a problem? Bring rend touch (rip enchant is better btw). If not ,bring shock.

Edit- I meant rip enchant, not rend.

zling · May 07, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03

they're both good. both have different uses.
Shock is better if you like to split or if you're more towards shutdown, which by running Ele(assuming BSurge?) I suppose you are than Shock is probably better. however if you're more into pure pressure than Rending Touch is better.

IMMORTAlMITCH · May 07, 2008, 11:05 PM // 23:05

Rip enchant > rend touch

moriz · May 07, 2008, 11:14 PM // 23:14

rip enchant->gash on a cripslasher imo. bring it on a disarm linebacker i guess.

l Teh Mighty Warrior l · May 08, 2008, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Conjure Frost. Seriously.

icedwhitemocha · May 08, 2008, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Both viable options ofc, but I prefer an enchant removal due to the amount of control it gives me over prot monks, eles, etc.

Jam Jar · May 08, 2008, 06:45 AM // 06:45

Shock in my opinion. Why? Though removing enchantments can be helpful, shock is much more versatile. Being both a knockdown, slight interrupter, and snare, it can be used very effectively with bull's strike and your axe spike combo. Remember that one second of doing nothing is very powerful. Shock is also a spell, meaning that even if you're blind or weakened, shock will still hit. Sometimes that 1 second knockdown can be beneficial to your teammates.

Also, my friend also says that Rending Touch is basically telegraphing the fact that you're going to spike. While with Shock they can't do anything, rending touch basically means, okay I'm going to spike ha ha. Plus, if the enemy is running, rending touch has an aftercast, making you stand still during the whole duration. This means you must catch up with the enemy before you can hit them again.

Shock is sometimes misunderstood or misused. What you DON'T want to do is spam Shock. The Exhaustion and 5 energy will eventually pay its price on a warrior. Use it to link KDs with bull's strike or an extra snare for your spike.

Therefore,

[Shock] > [Rending Touch]

zwei2stein · May 08, 2008, 08:49 AM // 08:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by l Teh Mighty Warrior l

Conjure Frost. Seriously.

Shock gives you option of conjure lightning. Thats kinda win.

kvndoom · May 08, 2008, 05:07 PM // 17:07

Jam Jar, Shock will be a 3 second knockdown. But I agree; let the casters deal with enchants and your warriors dish out damage and disruption.

Zuranthium · May 09, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25

I'd strongly consider Grasping Earth.

~Z

RotteN · May 10, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

it's indeed 2 seconds standard, stretched to 3 seconds if you don't completely fail at warrior.

I still prefer shock, enchant removal is for your midline...

Leetwalrushunter · May 10, 2008, 02:13 AM // 02:13

yeah um if u thought knockdown was 1 sec go unistall your comp

Byron · May 10, 2008, 07:13 PM // 19:13

I'm of the school that knockdowns kill people. And shock brings a lot of uses besides a hard KD, such as a hard interrupt and some skirmish ability. I'd only bring rend touch if the build were somehow light on enchant removal.

Epic Monkey Battle · May 12, 2008, 03:43 AM // 03:43

as far as enchant removal from our midline we have a shatter and inspired.

la_cabra_de_vida · May 12, 2008, 03:51 AM // 03:51

Like byron said, knockdown's are the gateway to killing people. A bull's strike to shock combo on a warrior is one of the deadliest things in the game. And the utility of being able to knock something down whenever is much more useful then rtouching something when your mesmer has enchant removal.